i want to get your view on edward snowden. i don't know if you saw before the commercial break, a lot of fiery words being bantied about. what is the right thing to do here? >> i think that this is kind of minor play. it depends on whether you are one of the listeners or being listened to is how people attitudes on snowden are. one of the things that it cost president obama, a lot of support among young people has been the entire nsa scandal and what has been revealed. and what happens to snowden is almost irrelevant to the fact that it plays into what i keep finding is a major fear in this country is the government has become the enemy of the people and therefore not to be trusted. and this is -- this has lent itself to that. and all of the attacks in washington, the truth of the matter is the american people have not been dealt with on the up and up and even the president's commission has said there needs to be reform. we all want to be safe, but none of us like to have big brother in our lives. >> doug? >> i must tell you,